Because if it's displayed people will vote according to if it looks like it's going to survive or not in order to get blam/protect points.
Old Voting System
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At 4/21/06 07:55 PM, Wadezilla wrote: Because if it's displayed people will vote according to if it looks like it's going to survive or not in order to get blam/protect points.
But you didn't see the score until after you voted.
At 4/21/06 07:18 PM, Andersson wrote:
As I said earlier, the effect of visuable scores after you've voted was that people were telling their Newgrounds friends what the score was, so everyone surely could get a blam/save point.
Through this, people voted to get their blam/save point. Not to voice their opinion.
Yes but it's only a small amount of votes that decide whether a flash survives or not, so people telling their newgrounds friends wouldn't really matter unless they were all on at the same time.
At 4/21/06 04:21 PM, Natdaprat wrote: Heh, i don't remember it. Sounds fun tho :)
Well of course you don't.
i found NG in 2004 :[
At 4/21/06 08:03 PM, remyzero wrote: Yes but it's only a small amount of votes that decide whether a flash survives or not, so people telling their newgrounds friends wouldn't really matter unless they were all on at the same time.
Er, the smaller the amount of votes who decide whether a submission is blammed or corresponding, the more does a few unfair votes affect the score of a submission. Especially since those who know a lot of other members also are those who have a high voting power.
And don't fool yourself, myself for instance have loads of people I know online all the time.
Culture is to society as cancer is to the body. We need structure, dicipline and no more relaxation.
No more gentle shit, pain is the fundation of a solid nation.
This is stupid, I can just check the most recent review to get an idea of what the submissions score is.
So for example say it's Clock Day and the last 5 UJ submissions you voted on all had a most recent review with an overall score of 10. Doesn't that give the same effect as seeing how much you changed the score and if you'll get the point or not?
I would like the old system back.
At 4/22/06 06:10 AM, Major_punk wrote: This is stupid, I can just check the most recent review to get an idea of what the submissions score is.
Yeah, except when there isn't yet a review or when a flash group has made the movie and some obvious, for example, Clock Crew hater has made the review. Or when somone else from the Clock Crew has made the review with a perfect ten.
So for example say it's Clock Day and the last 5 UJ submissions you voted on all had a most recent review with an overall score of 10. Doesn't that give the same effect as seeing how much you changed the score and if you'll get the point or not?
No, since it most probably would be another Clock Crew member who had made the review.
Bad example by the way because we don't need to see the scores to understand that a submission on Clock Day would be protected.
Culture is to society as cancer is to the body. We need structure, dicipline and no more relaxation.
No more gentle shit, pain is the fundation of a solid nation.
At 4/21/06 04:29 PM, remyzero wrote: So Tom should have brought that back after Clock Day, I know a lot of crap was submitted that day, I got most of my Blams on Clock Day hahahaha.
You what? One frame pieces of shit were being protected left right and centre, even if they had nothing to do with clocks (like most things that day since the Clock Crew has been dead for ages). I didn't get a single blam point last CD.
At 4/22/06 06:21 AM, Andersson wrote:At 4/22/06 06:10 AM, Major_punk wrote: This is stupid, I can just check the most recent review to get an idea of what the submissions score is.Yeah, except when there isn't yet a review or when a flash group has made the movie and some obvious, for example, Clock Crew hater has made the review. Or when somone else from the Clock Crew has made the review with a perfect ten.
So for example say it's Clock Day and the last 5 UJ submissions you voted on all had a most recent review with an overall score of 10. Doesn't that give the same effect as seeing how much you changed the score and if you'll get the point or not?No, since it most probably would be another Clock Crew member who had made the review.
Bad example by the way because we don't need to see the scores to understand that a submission on Clock Day would be protected.
The way I look at it is hiding the submissions score was to keep people from knowing what was passing and what was being blammed that day, ahead of time.
Everyone who pays attention to the portal knows which submissions will pass even though they technically shouldn't. For example a submission on Clock Day.
I just think theres too many flaws in hiding the score because theres so many other ways to see what's passing on that special day and what's being blammed.
Say Tom did remove the most recent review then people could just look at the 50 most recent to see the outcome of the submissions and what's next? Remove the 50 most recent? Then people could just look in their profiles and take note of what stats are rising and which arn't. Then what? Hide their profile stats?
People will find a way to see what's passing and what's being blammed unless everything is hidden which would defeat the purpose. So I think of hiding the score is pointless and just taking away something that alot of members want back...
At 4/22/06 07:02 AM, Major_punk wrote: The way I look at it is hiding the submissions score was to keep people from knowing what was passing and what was being blammed that day, ahead of time.
Yeah, so people wouldn't be able to surely tell their friends who yet hadn't voted whether the submission would be blammed or saved.
Everyone who pays attention to the portal knows which submissions will pass even though they technically shouldn't. For example a submission on Clock Day.
Yeah, most of us who blams/saves a lot know whether a submission will pass or not, but first off, it isn't only we who votes oftenly who votes. And secondly, we still can't be hundred percent on each submission.
I just think theres too many flaws in hiding the score because theres so many other ways to see what's passing on that special day and what's being blammed.
Well that doesn't mean we should make it easier.
Say Tom did remove the most recent review then people could just look at the 50 most recent to see the outcome of the submissions and what's next?
Eh, what different would it make? Then why do you try to be witty?
Remove the 50 most recent? Then people could just look in their profiles and take note of what stats are rising and which arn't. Then what? Hide their profile stats?
The reason to why you can see the reviews being made is also so people can express their opinion in public about a submission. It is not good to take that away.
Also, the rest of your arguments are so idiotic so I won't care to respond to them. You obviously didn't even read my entire last post I made to you, so whatever.
People will find a way to see what's passing and what's being blammed unless everything is hidden which would defeat the purpose.
Please. The problem was that you could see the outcome during judgement. Whether you can see it afterwards or not doesn't matter at all.
Culture is to society as cancer is to the body. We need structure, dicipline and no more relaxation.
No more gentle shit, pain is the fundation of a solid nation.
