Who here misses seeing how badly you damaged a bad flash during Judgement? I do, I used to like seeing how much my vote had lowered the flash's score during judgement, some flashes sucked so bad that it was the best feeling to see the damage I had given it by voting ZERO! I know Mass Voting was around, but it still is. Crappy Flashes get through all the time because of Mass Votes, so why not bring back the whole score thing? It's kinda pointless seeing it after the Judgement Period because it doesn't really matter anymore. Please Please Bring it back. What do you guys think?
Old Voting System
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showing scores can develop bias opinions because they just want blam and protection points. You may argue that you don't do this, but sadly the unmistakably sad, lonely majority doesn't.
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Yeah but I still vote the same way, because you wouldn't see the score until after you voted anyway. I would just like to see my EP/ and B/P points pay off.
Sorry,didn't read the post :(
Yeah I do kind of miss it,I don't really understand 'why' it was taken away,but probally because off,like you said,mass voting.
At 4/21/06 04:18 PM, biggieprice wrote:At 4/21/06 04:12 PM, remyzero wrote: What do you guys think?It's more fair with it gone.. Helps you see how much YOU like the flash and how good YOU think it is, instead of how much everyone else likes it.
I think it should stay gone.
Seconded. The only people who like the old system are stat whores, idiots, or misinformed people.
How can it bias your opinion on the flash if you have to vote in order to see the score?
You gave this entry a 2! If this movie is protected you will get a PROTECTION point
This is all I see now, instead of knowing how much I helped the flash, or damaged it. It's no fun. I just know what my voting power was.
At 4/21/06 04:12 PM, remyzero wrote: I know Mass Voting was around, but it still is.
That wasn't why it was taken away. It was taken away at Clock Day 2005 since Tom really understood what effect it made if you were able to see what score a submission had after you had voted on it; people were telling their Newgrounds friends what the score was, so everyone surely could get a blam/save point.
It resulted in unfair scores and such. Not massvoting.
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Also,why do people vote 1,2,3,or 4 in judgement?If you want to have a better chance of a blam point cause it sucks,vote 0.If you want to get a better chance of a protection point becuase it's good,vote 5!
So Tom should have brought that back after Clock Day, I know a lot of crap was submitted that day, I got most of my Blams on Clock Day hahahaha. I mean it worked fine before that. I just miss it. How do I make quotes gray?
At 4/21/06 04:29 PM, blackanese10 wrote: Also,why do people vote 1,2,3,or 4 in judgement?If you want to have a better chance of a blam point cause it sucks,vote 0.If you want to get a better chance of a protection point becuase it's good,vote 5!
Well I vote on the flash, if I think it deserves a 5 because it's well done, or it's a good story, or whatever. A 2 if I think it should have a chance of passing, and a 4 if its almost really really good. I vote a 1 if it sucks, but it shows that the person did put time into it, and a 0 if sucks.
At 4/21/06 04:12 PM, remyzero wrote: Who here misses seeing how badly you damaged a bad flash during Judgement? I do, I used to like seeing how much my vote had lowered the flash's score during judgement, some flashes sucked so bad that it was the best feeling to see the damage I had given it by voting ZERO! I know Mass Voting was around, but it still is. Crappy Flashes get through all the time because of Mass Votes, so why not bring back the whole score thing? It's kinda pointless seeing it after the Judgement Period because it doesn't really matter anymore. Please Please Bring it back. What do you guys think?
well i wouldn't know about any of this considering i only joined ng 124 days ago, but it does sound like a good idea and it in fact will give you a sense of relief beacause you don't have to wait for it to pass judgement to know whether you'll get the point or not...
It was implented right after clock day, after all.
We still have it, just not on under judgement flashes... I think.
Yeah it's on the ones that have passed, but my problem is that some authors resubmit their crappy flashes, and it pisses me off, so I blam them. But I don't know how bad I brought down the score. And the score after judgement doesn't really matter, becuase it's already safe.
At 4/21/06 04:12 PM, remyzero wrote: I know Mass Voting was around, but it still is.
Is that really why they took it away?
Is that really why they took it away?
No someone pointed out that they took it out after Clock Day 2005.
At 4/21/06 05:29 PM, remyzero wrote: But I don't know how bad I brought down the score. And the score after judgement doesn't really matter, becuase it's already safe.
Well that doesn't really matter, does it? If you knew after voting on a submission that it probaly would not get blammed (which would be against your will), then what difference would it make?
You still can't vote twice (if you want to follow the rules).
Instead you can write a constructive review which might help the author improve till next time, or/and open up the eyes of the viewers so they will consider voting more fair the next time.
Culture is to society as cancer is to the body. We need structure, dicipline and no more relaxation.
No more gentle shit, pain is the fundation of a solid nation.
At 4/21/06 05:51 PM, Andersson wrote:At 4/21/06 05:29 PM, remyzero wrote: But I don't know how bad I brought down the score. And the score after judgement doesn't really matter, becuase it's already safe.Well that doesn't really matter, does it? If you knew after voting on a submission that it probaly would not get blammed (which would be against your will), then what difference would it make?
You still can't vote twice (if you want to follow the rules).
Instead you can write a constructive review which might help the author improve till next time, or/and open up the eyes of the viewers so they will consider voting more fair the next time.
It's not really about whether knowing it will be blammed or not, it's just about knowing by how much I brought it down. Just watching that score get lowered. That's all I want hahhaha, but during judgement. Does anyone know a a guy that can bring this to the attention of Tom? hahhaha
I miss it yes. Since my vp went up. would I see a difference.
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LOL! I never noticed HAHHAAHAHA. I should have a special Level Icon just for me
At 4/21/06 06:18 PM, remyzero wrote: It's not really about whether knowing it will be blammed or not, it's just about knowing by how much I brought it down.
Well if you're just aiming for that, then vote for the submission the very next day and you'll be able to bring the score down and know by how much.
Just watching that score get lowered. That's all I want hahhaha, but during judgement. Does anyone know a a guy that can bring this to the attention of Tom? hahhaha
Yeah, I know, but what Tom Fulp made back then was an improvement. I doubt he'll go from better to worse.
Besides, there is the thread "Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2" there you can give ideas about how to improve Newgrounds.
Culture is to society as cancer is to the body. We need structure, dicipline and no more relaxation.
No more gentle shit, pain is the fundation of a solid nation.
I liked the old voting system because you actually do make a difference and it makes you wanna B/P more.. Sometimes you can raise it by like .5, if you're early, or at least .1.
On flashes past judgement you can raise them by what? .00001?
At 4/21/06 06:39 PM, squadus2 wrote: I liked the old voting system because you actually do make a difference and it makes you wanna B/P more.. Sometimes you can raise it by like .5, if you're early, or at least .1.
On flashes past judgement you can raise them by what? .00001?
Exactly what I mean. After judgement, if you vote 0, it doesn't matter because I already passed, and the score doesn't really go down too much, and it's more fun to see it go down while its under judgement.
At 4/21/06 06:47 PM, remyzero wrote: It's more fun to see it go down while its under judgement.
Well it might be more fun, but it is also easier to gain blam/save points unfairly. I do atleast consider it to be better without the revealing score during judgement.
Culture is to society as cancer is to the body. We need structure, dicipline and no more relaxation.
No more gentle shit, pain is the fundation of a solid nation.
At 4/21/06 06:50 PM, Andersson wrote:
Well it might be more fun, but it is also easier to gain blam/save points unfairly. I do atleast consider it to be better without the revealing score during judgement.
How so? If you could only vote once, and flash shorts that suck do get blammed, and they deserve to be blammed. And besides, flash movies are under judgement for not too long. Besides people that get B/P points unfairly, still do it anyhow.
At 4/21/06 06:55 PM, remyzero wrote: How so?
As I said earlier, the effect of visuable scores after you've voted was that people were telling their Newgrounds friends what the score was, so everyone surely could get a blam/save point.
Through this, people voted to get their blam/save point. Not to voice their opinion.
Culture is to society as cancer is to the body. We need structure, dicipline and no more relaxation.
No more gentle shit, pain is the fundation of a solid nation.
I miss it but people took advange of it and when clock day of 2005 was done they removed it to try and stop mass voting
