I was thinking...
Lets make a dedicated group of people that will fifen
songs. Make everyone happier and rebbelling against the 0 voters.
*sigh*
This is getting really old. But hell, I'll 5 you if you 5 me.
At 4/20/06 07:58 PM, -Steve- wrote: *sigh*
This is getting really old. But hell, I'll 5 you if you 5 me.
Deal
At 4/20/06 07:58 PM, -Steve- wrote: *sigh*
This is getting really old. But hell, I'll 5 you if you 5 me.
That is a tad hypocritical.
Actually, I think it's a good idea. Boost the scores of pieces you like to offset the zero-ers.
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At 4/20/06 08:40 PM, WinTang wrote: That is a tad hypocritical.
Your point?
Btw, fifen to that guy I made the deal with.
At 4/20/06 07:56 PM, Techni-Color wrote: I was thinking...
Lets make a dedicated group of people that will fifen
songs. Make everyone happier and rebbelling against the 0 voters.
Not exactly the same thing but looky here.
Try talking to some of those people from that topic... A few of them were discussing this already.
I suggest that if you want to go through a 5 peoples stuff then just do it... I do it all the time - I don't necessarily talk about it much and I don't know about forming a crew or club but... well, you get my point.
Pick a user or two at random and do it ... or don't... no worries either way
If you 5 everything, then the portal is going to be flooded with high scoring songs, with their scores not being particularly indicative of the quality. And those who actually deserved the high scores in the first place will get pushed from the top of the page.
Of zero-ing and five-ing, either extreme is good; just listen and vote fairly. What could be better than honest feedback? I know it's a bit idealistic to think there can be true feedback in an AP score without the balancing off of the inevitable pickaxers with indiscriminate fives, but I think it would do a lot more good to have members of a "crew" vote fairly on at least five songs a day (for some of us, that's really all there would be time for...) than to have said crew voting countless fives all over the place regardless of quality.
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At 4/20/06 09:22 PM, -Steve- wrote:At 4/20/06 08:40 PM, WinTang wrote: That is a tad hypocritical.Your point?
My point was that it's a tad hypocritical.
We do not have to hate each other now, I just felt like pointing it out :)
Several opinions stated - several decent points brought up.
As for the random 5'ing of this or that, I see no huge problem with that - but I honestly gotta say that banding together and forming a crew for the express purpose of 5'ing submissions is probably a bad idea. Not to mention that I'm certain it will be looked down on by the mods/admins as it could constitute mass-voting. I know - it's a little different but really - in the AP anything more than 8 or 10 votes at a time is pretty much the equivalent of 400 votes on a FP submission...
Besides - A few weeks back I looked at all of my scores and made a note of where they were in the charts - how many were on which page etc... A while later I did the Anti-Zero Hero thing and 5'd a bunch of stuff. Several of those people also stopped by and 5'd me back.
For about a day, my scores/rankings jumped up a bit - but within 48 hours almost all of them had been downrated -not necessarily zeroed, just downrated- and within 4 days the scores and placement of the tracks was damn near right where they all started a week or two prior.
Moral of the story - if your scores get too high, you'll just get them knocked back down to where they were by a few additional zeroes anyway...
So none if it will really make any huge difference - but it's still a nice gesture.
And besides - the scores mean nothin' ... right now most of my stuff is in the upper 3's or low 4's - wanna know how many contract offers I've gotten?
- none -
:D
I offered myself a contract a while back
I had to decline; the bitch wasn't giving me enough dinero
Well If they 0 you without listening to the song, that's the same as someone giving your song a 2 without listening to your song, so it's just as bad as if someone giving your track a 5 without listening to it.
People need viewers to be able to listen and judge fairly, I can guarantee you most of te audio submiters submit there music for exposure, not high scores.
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Its more fair as it works now, with ppl zeroing stuff. More or less everyone gets zeroed, and the one who doesnt dont get that much attention anyways.
If there were a 5-ing crew, that would lead to a few selected artist (crew members) to get more attention, due to being high up in the lists. Many unknown wouldnt get the chanse of getting anywhere in that case. And many ppl who submit aint active in the forum, so I say a big fat No No on this crew.
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I'm in the same boat with most of the posters here - ethically, it's clearly the wrong thing to do, however well-intentioned. While audio submitters would appreciate the boost, it wouldn't necessarily be a deserved boost, in the same way that random pickaxers (lemming zero-voters) cause undeserved ratings plunges.
Personally, if people want to mass-5 my audio I certainly won't complain, but I'll feel just a little queasy thinking that I got the votes illegitimately.
Though I'm torn (since zeroes are the root of all evil), gotta go back the old saying: Honesty is the best policy.
That said, if you wanted to start/join the crew that gives honest reviews/votes/evaluations of other submitters on a regular basis, that would garner far more support from the AF. That way, everyone would benefit from the more plentiful honest evaluations of their work. (**Simultaneously, if most of the people in said crew just happened to be of a "light" temperment, voting higher rather than lower by default, you'd quietly achieve the same goal as you were suggesting, with a more agreeable stated purpose.)
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At 4/20/06 07:58 PM, -Steve- wrote: *sigh*
This is getting really old. But hell, I'll 5 you if you 5 me.
gghahahahahaah
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Voting high on submissions to 'even out the score' is silly. The whole point of the system is to show what the majority think, not what a certain individual or small group thinks. Vote what you think it deserves and leave it at that.
A club like this is just as destructive as a club dedicated to mass blamming.
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